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Looking at your 6kw inverter

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(@sid-genetry-solar)
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Here's a photo of an inverter in the 2nd shipment (which I believe you would get if you ordered):

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You can see the AC output terminal in this photo (box cover removed):

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(Both of these photos were from the factory before the shipment was sent out)


   
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Yes, the 2 120v posts would actually be better. That way I can use smaller wire & join them together into a suitable block made to hold a big #4 wire. According to the wattage chart I saw, #4 is good to almost 6kw under 100 ft.

& yes, the remote switch option will be connected to a relay that's either full on or full off, no signal.

I've got 2 Solinba 4kw inverters now & 1 of them is going on 2 years old that I had to replace 3 boards in so far. The company has been terrific sending all the parts free from China but with that much failure, I can't see buying a bigger model from them. I'm banking on what I see coming from your end as something I can count on better & your price for what you're offering is way better than the better known brands.

I'll be placing an order next week, gotta get a few more jobs done here to get the funds for it. Thx Sid, you've been very helpful.


   
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Posted by: @bossrox
Yes, the 2 120v posts would actually be better. That way I can use smaller wire & join them together into a suitable block made to hold a big #4 wire. According to the wattage chart I saw, #4 is good to almost 6kw under 100 ft.

So the 5-pin 60A terminal block has the following connections in 240v split-phase mode:

  • L1
  • N
  • L2
  • Input L1
  • Input N / L2 (depending on 120v / 240v AC input)

If in 120v single-phase mode, we could make it the following:

  • L
  • N
  • L
  • N
  • Input L

Unless you need the AC input function, that should be quite adequate for your needs.  Makes it much easier for Sean to rewire, too 😉.

And like I told another customer, if down the road (past the warranty period...or if you just don't care about the warranty), it is completely possible for you to open up the inverter, reconfigure the transformer secondary wires, reconfigure the CPU setup, and have yourself a 240v split-phase inverter.


   
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11 hours ago, Sid Genetry Solar said:

Here's a photo of an inverter in the 2nd shipment (which I believe you would get if you ordered):

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You can see the AC output terminal in this photo (box cover removed):

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(Both of these photos were from the factory before the shipment was sent out)

Much better output terminal orientation.

Hey Sean, can I swap the V1 I ordered for a V2 when it comes in?


   
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1 minute ago, Waterman said:

Hey Sean, can I swap the V1 I ordered for a V2 when it comes in?

You'd have to call him to work that out; I don't think he has time for the forum.  And wait even longer for your inverter 😉.  The no-delays estimate on the 2nd shipment was towards the end of this month/early April.


   
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Uhm, wait, its a five wire block?  Oh boy. . .  I was so hopeing it would be useing the PJ bottem terminals instead of the stupid center block.  I like the other kind, easy to insert wire, tighten down and no fuss.

 


   
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1 minute ago, Sid Genetry Solar said:

You'd have to call him to work that out; I don't think he has time for the forum.  And wait even longer for your inverter 😉.  The no-delays estimate on the 2nd shipment was towards the end of this month/early April.

I can live with the delay. The way the terminal block is on the V2 would allow swapping from the PJ/Upower to the GS without any wire change on that end. All I would have to change is the 2/0 wire.


   
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Posted by: @the-blind-wolf
Uhm, wait, its a five wire block? Oh boy. . . I was so hopeing it would be useing the PJ bottem terminals instead of the stupid center block. I like the other kind, easy to insert wire, tighten down and no fuss.

So the 2nd shipment uses a "PJ bottom terminals" only 10x better (a single 5-wire block).  No flimsy bendy plastic terminal--no, it's a hard plastic terminal, and a LOT larger.  Just insert the wires, tighten the screw down, and you're done.

Unfortunately the 1st shipment uses the large "PJ barrier strip blocks" (what they use on their 9/15K+ inverters)--that's all I was aware of at the time.  A 3-position terminal for AC output, and a 2-position terminal for AC input.  Yes, putting wires in them is a bit of a pain, to say the least.  And unfortunately no, we can't swap out the old terminals for the new ones...they're mounted differently.


   
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Posted by: @waterman
I can live with the delay. The way the terminal block is on the V2 would allow swapping from the PJ/Upower to the GS without any wire change on that end. All I would have to change is the 2/0 wire.

We certainly appreciate your patience.  This Frontline Freight shipping company is trying our patience to no end--suffice it to say that they'll never get another dime of our business.  EVER.

Second shipment is coming in a NY port, not a CA port.  Out of FF's service area.  I just hope there isn't some other just-as-lousy carrier on the East coast...


   
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Uhm, tempting to wait for the v2 as well.

 

Too bad you can't just replace the face plate with a updated model down the road, or would the be possble?

 

Of course I have no issue, once it wired up, I'm not touching it.  I already got me two 10/3 wire ready to hook up that goes to the breaker.  one wired with L1 l2 and N, and the other L1 and l2 only as Sid described to wireing.


   
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Posted by: @the-blind-wolf
Too bad you can't just replace the face plate with a updated model down the road, or would the be possble?

Well, technically the whole end panel of the inverter could be replaced...the rest of it's basically the same inside, so that would be a minor upgrade.


   
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2 hours ago, Bossrox said:

I've got 2 Solinba 4kw inverters now & 1 of them is going on 2 years old that I had to replace 3 boards in so far

Could I ask for photos of the insides of the Solinba inverter?  More curiosity than anything else...what I really want to see is what kind of MOS drive they use.  I find it very bemusing how many Chinese inverter designs are based off of the exact same original design that they've all copied 😉

And, what were the boards you had to replace?  If it's easier, I'd be happy with photos of just the (blown) boards.


   
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Posted by: @the-blind-wolf
Uhm, tempting to wait for the v2 as well.

You could but it would void your warranty. Unless you shipped it back to Sean for him to do.


   
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Won't need to use the 120v charging input. that's a wasteful way to charge batteries as it takes 30% more energy to restore lead acid than what you take out, More efficient to let solar do all the charging & use utility power if your batteries are too depleted. With 2 Victron 150/100's, I got major charging capacity.

But your terminal set up for my mod is just fine by me.


   
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1 hour ago, Bossrox said:

Won't need to use the 120v charging input.

That makes it really easy.  You'll need to let Sean know what we've discussed when ordering; you can mention that you've run it by Sid 😉.


   
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