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Status of Bench Testing of GS inverts.

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Posted by: @the-blind-wolf
Cool. Considering on putting in a sub panel and move things to it, that way I can have more breaker space and as well as use the grid to recharge the batts if need be instead of a gen. they still ain't sent my remote. going to calll them tomorrow and find out where it is lol. No biggy, I can easly go out and start it, I might find my other two remotes if I dig around enough lol.

With the split-sync mode, it will only be able to charge batteries on one phase 120v.  The slave inverter cannot charge the batteries, as the input is used for the sync signal.


   
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It's imperative to NOT accidentally (or purposefully) connect the inverters' outputs to the grid (or any other power source)--that almost guarantees instant smoke.


   
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No biggy, I'm the only one going to be in charge of switching the main and two breakers to enable or disable them.  Wish they made a o ne way thing I could put on the ac just in case of somebody not me flip the dang thing on.


   
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Matter of fact, I'll call around tomorrow and see how much it would cost from a eletriction to come over and run a main switch outside from the meter to the breaker, so I can have double cut off.


   
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Just to be clear.  Can, or Can not run grid tie along side these as setup?


   
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54 minutes ago, The Blind Wolf said:

Just to be clear.  Can, or Can not run grid tie along side these as setup?

ONLY on the master inverter's output phase (L1), and only 120v grid-tie units.

Slave inverter can't frequency shift to shut down the grid-ties if they're backfeeding into the batteries.


   
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ONLY on the master inverter's output phase (L1), and only 120v grid-tie units.

So, I can hook up the grid tie to the master outlets and be fine there.  cause to find out which is l1 outlet in house would be be fun to do lol.  Still waiting on Sean to post the next vid. refresh, refresh. . .


   
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Hmmm. wait, if you pump more power then what you useing it supposed to back feed into the battery sort of like reverse charging.  lol.


   
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35 minutes ago, The Blind Wolf said:

Hmmm. wait, if you pump more power then what you useing it supposed to back feed into the battery sort of like reverse charging.  lol.

It actually does.  Surprisingly well, too.  GS inverters currently detect this, and the plan--once we have a setup that can be properly monitored/tested, is to enable this functionality.  Grid-tie charging battery current limit would also apply, as would the voltage thresholds--if the grid-tie inverter exceeds any limits, it will be throttled back via frequency shift.  ("Dumb" grid-tie units will just shut off.)


   
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It actually does. Surprisingly well, too. GS inverters currently detect this, and the plan--once we have a setup that can be properly monitored/tested, is to enable this functionality. Grid-tie charging battery current limit would also apply, as would the voltage thresholds--if the grid-tie inverter exceeds any limits, it will be throttled back via frequency shift. ("Dumb" grid-tie units will just shut off.)

Well, if you need a tester, I got a simple 500w gride tie 120v.  I might got enough panels to get it up to 400w.  I could go buy a 1k model if really want to test it.


   
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As long as your loads exceed the grid-tie inverter's max output, you can plug it into an outlet on the MASTER inverter (NOT the slave), and it should be alright.


   
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2 minutes ago, Sid Genetry Solar said:

As long as your loads exceed the grid-tie inverter's max output, you can plug it into an outlet on the MASTER inverter (NOT the slave), and it should be alright.

Yeah, I'm pulling more then 500w all the time.

 

You think after you get the software updated that the slave will be able to do it as well?  Or thats a no go for this type of setup?


   
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You think after you get the software updated that the slave will be able to do it as well? Or thats a no go for this type of setup?

It's a no-go impossibility.  Slave inverter is following the master inverter's signal--it can't adjust the frequency to shut down a grid-tie inverter.  If it should do a frequency shift, then the inverters will no longer be 180 degrees apart, and you'll lose the 240v split phase total output.

Master inverter can do a frequency shift, as it's providing the sync signal--meaning the slave has to follow whatever it does.


   
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ah, I see what you mean.  watching a gs vid that sean just posted, not the one I want to see 😛 lol.  Refresh, refresh.


   
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So I heard that Sid got the PB Boards for the 12k.  I'm already looking at building a 48v battery.  wish there was a switch to change the VDC on a gs, that would be sweet if there was some kind of switch on the back side or bottem to change the voltage on the fly.  wonder if making relays that change the wireing on detecting the voatage level could be done. that would be neat.   Oh well, I'll start with a small 48v battery, and slowly build on that with the 12k, then after maybe a year, Sid can help me rewire the gs to 48v when the warrenty is gone lol.


   
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