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Status of Bench Testing of GS inverts.

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(@the-blind-wolf)
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Yep. The question is a new board or another whole inverter when the version C ones come out. Right now mine is under an 1800 Watt load as it is running both the fridge and the portable A/C as it is 90°F out.

But, your not having any issue with yours are you?  I can wait for a bit longer, though sucks I got all these batts and no way of dicharging them.  unless I can find something that is 24v, I want to cycle these batts to get them to settle into level power, and to see how long it takes to recharge with my solar, while I put more panels up.


   
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Minor issues like the operator not being able to do things on the screen properly yet.🤪 And errors in the reporting of Voltage and Wattage which are part of the fixes in the C boards. My batteries right now are sitting at 25.5 Volts with intermittent clouds so I can't complain. Need to get the next 8 panels up so that they handle all the load without any draw on the batteries. Had a lazy MSB charge controller but got that fixed today. Not bad now that it is pulling 89% of the rated power out of the panels it is hooked to. It needed both the batteries and the solar input disconnected to reset itself to the new settings. But nothing in the shed wants to talk on the WiFi. I wonder if all the steel and copper is absorbing the signals. 😉


   
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Well, you could do like I have done, I have a router in the building in the back bridged to the other router by wifi. most new routers can do that and these tp links are dirt cheap to do that with.


   
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Posted by: @the-blind-wolf
Hey Sid, how long before you push out the production of the Rev C board?

Groan.  Going to be at least a month.  Currently trying to get a relay supplier to comprehend any one of the 3 ways they can make their 2-pole 70A latching relay PCB mountable so I can use it on the Rev. C boards as the AC input relay.  Until I can convince them of the possibilities, I either have to keep waiting, or use 3 of the Hongfa HFE10 relays I'm currently using (for proper disconnect and auto AC input voltage setup).

Once I get all my ducks in a row on the parts, THEN I can order a small prototype run to make sure I didn't make any stupid errors...THEN hand the design over to the factory for a production run of 250-300pcs.  Assuming there aren't any parts delays, that process will take a full month, then we could have some shipped to the U.S., and the rest go into inverters.  Another full month for shipping of inverters.

Yeah, this isn't quite an easy job.  Assuming I ordered the boards tomorrow, we're talking 2.5 months minimum before we get a production set of Rev. C boards.  And I can assure you that I WON'T be ordering them tomorrow--the design is not at all updated.  Won't be able to order a sample run for another week or 2 unfortunately.

 

Posted by: @the-blind-wolf
Why? you wanting it too? If it is going to be another month, I'm almost tempted to tell sean to hold on to those inverts until the rev c board comes out. Matter of fact, he could use those two inverts for his dasy setup.

I apologize for the delays.  But I have a list a mile high of requirements that I have to do.  I have the daisy/parallel code sorta started...slave code has been revised to work in the opposite direction (but not tested).  I need to write the master code to "call for help", and then test THAT.  I hoped to get a lot of that work done over the weekend, BUT this weekend has been an absolute wipe-out as far as any inverter code/design work.  Fortunately that isn't the norm for my schedule.

Maybe...I might be able to satisfy other customers' requirements, and also be able to get the updated parallel code tested on my bench, then out to Sean for a test on his bench, YouTube demonstration, and then at long last your inverters will finally so belatedly ship.


   
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I understand Sid, No biggy.  Just  make sure sean check all those so called known bugs that are popping up while its in his hands.  I hate to get them and then have to send them back cause of something that I can't fix, cause there is no way I'm going to pop the lid on them once they get here.   Plus once they get here and I get them mounted, they will be put on a big eating frenzy to drain my batts then shut down for a day to see how fast my banks recharge by the sun.  Probley do that two or three times before placeing them online full time.

 

Found out my oven uses 3.5k when its running on and off.  From what I've been fooling around, washing cloths drying them and running the dish wash will push me around 10k pulsing power.  Thats mostl ikely the highest I'll be hitting, so should be good doing anything in the house as long as I don't go cooking at the same time lol.


   
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50 minutes ago, The Blind Wolf said:

Found out my oven uses 3.5k when its running on and off.  From what I've been fooling around, washing cloths drying them and running the dish wash will push me around 10k pulsing power.  Thats mostl ikely the highest I'll be hitting, so should be good doing anything in the house as long as I don't go cooking at the same time lol.

Funny how things can add up fast. But if you want to play with the breakers, can get by  with a minimum load on an inverter/generator. We have run for a time on only a 3500 Watt generator because that is the smallest that could get us water and lighting. Now if we wanted to run all the load we could put on the house, it would take 4 of the GS 12K units running at one time and 3 of them would be maxed out. My idea is to cut the commercial power consumption but not completely replace it and have power for emergencies without starting a generator. Or if it will take a long time to get power back, to run at night for a few hours without the noise of a generator. As we did after Irma.


   
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18 hours ago, Waterman said:

Funny how things can add up fast. But if you want to play with the breakers, can get by  with a minimum load on an inverter/generator. We have run for a time on only a 3500 Watt generator because that is the smallest that could get us water and lighting. Now if we wanted to run all the load we could put on the house, it would take 4 of the GS 12K units running at one time and 3 of them would be maxed out. My idea is to cut the commercial power consumption but not completely replace it and have power for emergencies without starting a generator. Or if it will take a long time to get power back, to run at night for a few hours without the noise of a generator. As we did after Irma.

Well, I live by my self, so I do n't hardly use that much power, but dang 3 12k inverts?  what you live in a Mansion?  Oh and Sid, just to let you know, I've switched to the dark side, I thrown my windows out the window and now running  Linux the 2020 youbudo


   
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9 hours ago, The Blind Wolf said:

Well, I live by my self, so I do n't hardly use that much power, but dang 3 12k inverts?  what you live in a Mansion?  Oh and Sid, just to let you know, I've switched to the dark side, I thrown my windows out the window and now running  Linux the 2020 youbudo

No, it just means that I am doing a lot of things all at once. We have a 200 Amp 240 service. Tonight it would be about 3kW on the load. If I use the welder, that instantly can run it up to 15kW. If the compressor is on, that can draw another couple. Turn on the irrigation pump, there goes another 5K. And then comes the plasma cutter. The lathe, the stove, the oven the hot water heater, and the dryer and washer. It added up fast when dad was alive as he could be using the lathe while I was using the welder and we had both A/C units running while watering. In fact, watering was sometimes done on the generator to keep the load off the commercial power. Our house only has a 32X40' footprint. But it is two stories. And it is hot down here.


   
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1 hour ago, Waterman said:

No, it just means that I am doing a lot of things all at once. We have a 200 Amp 240 service. Tonight it would be about 3kW on the load. If I use the welder, that instantly can run it up to 15kW. If the compressor is on, that can draw another couple. Turn on the irrigation pump, there goes another 5K. And then comes the plasma cutter. The lathe, the stove, the oven the hot water heater, and the dryer and washer. It added up fast when dad was alive as he could be using the lathe while I was using the welder and we had both A/C units running while watering. In fact, watering was sometimes done on the generator to keep the load off the commercial power. Our house only has a 32X40' footprint. But it is two stories. And it is hot down here.

You in Florda?  I'm in Alabama.  You can't get any lower then Florda.

 

Yeah that would eat up the power.  If you was close, I would have you fix a battery cell for me since you probley could weld the bolt back onto it, though like I said above one of my post I spot weld it the best i could with a strip of nickle, not the most best way, but its holding, not sure if it'll hold up if I pull over 100a on stop.  Will probley look around today to see if I can find a shop that can do the real high power spot welding to re attach the bolt cap back ont he end.  they said if you want to pull 500a you have to weld on the cables, but, with what it comes with only can pull 100a from what they clame. which is a 6m bolt.


   
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Posted by: @the-blind-wolf
You in Florda? I'm in Alabama. You can't get any lower then Florda.

Yep. Only 28 miles North of Key Largo. Or 128 driving miles from Key West. Or just about as far South as you can get on the mainland part of Florida. We had a cold front come thru so it is only 70° out but with an 83% humidity.


   
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UPDATE: it looks like I have Thursday / Friday off work this week.  Should help immensely on getting a few bugs cleaned up...


   
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2 hours ago, Sid Genetry Solar said:

UPDATE: it looks like I have Thursday / Friday off work this week.  Should help immensely on getting a few bugs cleaned up...

You mean Sean doesn't have you on full time!? What is your normal job, if you can divulge such info?


   
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10 minutes ago, InPhase said:

You mean Sean doesn't have you on full time!? What is your normal job, if you can divulge such info?

Wish that was the case.  Everybody seems to think that if something is a "business", that money grows on trees and comes out of thin air.  But that's not the case yet--right now, development expenses are covered, but that's about all the business can afford right now.

I'm not doing anything special: currently helping a contractor build a 6,000 square foot McMansion...just about done with it I think, and unless things pick up a bit with Genetry Solar, I might need to find another job to work to pay the bills.  Like reroofing houses...done that before.


   
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Posted by: @sid-genetry-solar
Wish that was the case. Everybody seems to think that if something is a "business", that money grows on trees and comes out of thin air. But that's not the case yet--right now, development expenses are covered, but that's about all the business can afford right now.

I refuse to work on roofs of our barns or the top level roof on the farm house in Ohio. Those all have snow pitch roofs. The roof over the attic isn't bad nor the one that was over my grandmothers bedroom. But if you set a tool down even on it, you might as well climb down because it was going to be already on the ground. Walking on the slabs on the roof in the morning was also out as it was just too slick. I reroofed it with Al panels in the 70s and they are still doing good. The 40s steel roofs need replaced and that would go to our roofers to do. Barn roof, you have to tie off a ladder to the tractor on the other side to even think about working on them. Dad wouldn't do it when he was in his late 50s and I sure won't do it in my mid 60s. That is a young person's job. And by the way, you can't drive Al roofing nails in 200 year old Oak slabs unless you drill the hole the same size as the nail. And by the next day, you won't be able to pull that nail out.


   
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1 hour ago, Sid Genetry Solar said:

Wish that was the case.  Everybody seems to think that if something is a "business", that money grows on trees and comes out of thin air.  But that's not the case yet--right now, development expenses are covered, but that's about all the business can afford right now.

I'm not doing anything special: currently helping a contractor build a 6,000 square foot McMansion...just about done with it I think, and unless things pick up a bit with Genetry Solar, I might need to find another job to work to pay the bills.  Like reroofing houses...done that before.

Oh, I just figured you worked as an engineer at a firm somewhere or had your own shingle out. Is the McMansion building a full time gig, or is it just to keeps the bills paid between gigs? I personally am very ADD/ADHD and can't hold a job working for someone else. Not very long anyway. So I've been self employed for going on 20 years.


   
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