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I am preparing for your GS 12kw inverter now but will order when I see on youtube that it is ready . I will wire the 4 ton heat pump directly to the 48v 220vac inverter . It will never run at full load as the heat pump run at 4000 watts and surge is 7000 watts to start . I will only need to run the inverter 8 hours and charge the most dangerous bmw mercedes nissan LG panasonic lithium ion and lithium cobalt batteries at night . I will not use your inverter for charging but am using many e-bike 4 amp chargers . It takes 10 hours to charge the batteries very slow but safer . The batteries is cover with concrete box in case of thermal runaway and never get wet in the covered patio . I will use the wifi board to shut down at 170 degree F . The inverter is in the coverd patio and will never get wet . I only charge the 16s lithium batteries with many voltage regulators to 61 volts shutoff to be safe . Last summer I run the 15kw powerjack 1 hour and let it cool for 2 hours and run another 1 hour and let it cool down again and again and at most 4 hours a day running .
It will never run at full load as the heat pump run at 4000 watts and surge is 7000 watts to start
GS 6kw inverter should do this without hesitation. Assuming this is some sort of large mini-split unit? If so, you'd be quite adequate with a GS 6kw inverter. Will run 6kw continuous 24/7 at roughly 130 degrees Fahrenheit internal temp (ambient ~75 degrees).
A "15kw" PJ should be able to hold 4-5kw continuous output, so are you sure the load is only 4kw continuous?
I will not use your inverter for charging but am using many e-bike 4 amp chargers . It takes 10 hours to charge the batteries very slow but safer .
Charge current (and voltage settings) are fully adjustable on a GS inverter. I've tested it for several hours at 10A (24v); it can easily regulate much lower if you want. What doesn't help is that the current charge efficiency has been measured around 65-70%; I hope to increase this with a PFC charge firmware update.
Yes I see your video on the load test of GS 6kw last year . My heat pump is a 4 ton high efficiency american standard rated 3900 watts running . I tested with wattmeter at most 4400 watts running . Starting surge at most is 29 amps which is 7000 watts so your 6kw GS inverter will work now . I think your 12kw GS inverter will run 8 hours at half load at 100 degree F . If the 12kw GS shut down at 170 degree due to heat in the summer I connected a 50 amp beaker to switch over to the 15kw powerjack to run a hour and then switch back to the 12kw GS .
My lithium ion cobalt batteries is so dangerous that I only charge at most 4 amps to 67 volts 16s and offline not connected to inverter . My voltage regulator to each battery will shut each e-bike charger off at 61 volts at this time when connected to inverter . I see in one of your video that the wifi board can set the overvoltage to 65v and shutdown . My inverter can only run 8 hours being charge by 3600 watts solar panel otherwise the batteries must supply power .
Seems like Sid need to make a Poroid with a water jacket and a small chiller, make sure its all incase with a drain tube to go outisde the caseing andthen you can sell a inverter that made for anyting you throw at it.
I only know of one invewrter by signitur or something trhat is like over, and I mean over kill, its completely sealed and is made to go inside of mines and able to handle some serious heat, but dang its got a price tag for it.
2 hours ago, The Blind Wolf said:Seems like Sid need to make a Poroid with a water jacket and a small chiller, make sure its all incase with a drain tube to go outisde the caseing andthen you can sell a inverter that made for anyting you throw at it.
I only know of one invewrter by signitur or something trhat is like over, and I mean over kill, its completely sealed and is made to go inside of mines and able to handle some serious heat, but dang its got a price tag for it.
Why not just go straight for the liquid nitrogen coolant loop? He could wind the transformer with a superconductive material and power the cryo equipment straight from the inverter. Also make the core 3 feet wide and 9 inches tall to reduce the stress on it.
1 hour ago, InPhase said:Why not just go straight for the liquid nitrogen coolant loop? He could wind the transformer with a superconductive material and power the cryo equipment straight from the inverter. Also make the core 3 feet wide and 9 inches tall to reduce the stress on it.
Well, if you got the money, I'm sure Sid would make that dream come true. and sean would personaly deliver it to your door.
They did back in the early2k, made a chiller that was for cpu, that would sub zero the cpu. but that was a area of what 1:x1: with the intel heat sheild cover. . . Why not make the core a rolled up log instead of a donut? I always wonder about that. I guess its got to do with something with the magnet fields. but, seem like you could get more wire and all that with a rolled up log shape instead of a donut shape.
Heck why not have two equally size donuts one for one phase and the other for the other phase, then you can mkae them just as big and able to take anything thrown at them. I mean I got a auto tran step up and step down that got a coil probley two times the size of what in the gs inverter.
3 hours ago, The Blind Wolf said:Well, if you got the money, I'm sure Sid would make that dream come true. and sean would personaly deliver it to your door.
They did back in the early2k, made a chiller that was for cpu, that would sub zero the cpu. but that was a area of what 1:x1: with the intel heat sheild cover. . . Why not make the core a rolled up log instead of a donut? I always wonder about that. I guess its got to do with something with the magnet fields. but, seem like you could get more wire and all that with a rolled up log shape instead of a donut shape.
Heck why not have two equally size donuts one for one phase and the other for the other phase, then you can mkae them just as big and able to take anything thrown at them. I mean I got a auto tran step up and step down that got a coil probley two times the size of what in the gs inverter.
The magnetic flux is completely contained within the toroid, at least theoretically. Other types of cores have much greater flux leakage. A toroidal transformer is just about as good as the laws of physics allow a transformer to get.
There is only one phase, split in half to produce two voltages. Tying two single phase transformers together still makes a single phase. It is basically what is already going on in the standard transformer: Two transformers on the same core joined together in the middle. I think you'd actually lose something by having two separate transformers because you now have two primaries instead of one.
As far as autotransformers go, they are quite a different beast. Autotransformers are a lot more efficient than regular transformers because energy is transferred by conduction as well as induction. For a given size, an autotransformer can be much smaller for the same kVA. But they aren't electrically isolated between input and output. It's just too easy to accidentally put an unintended voltage somewhere it shouldn't be with an autotransformer.
Yeah now I remeber Sid said that before, forgot about the primery wire thing and stuff.
yeah I've been seeing a lot of You Tubers use a 240v inverter and have a auto tran split it to the breaker with good results.
Just seems like something would go wrong with doing that full time though.
But they aren't electrically isolated between input and output. It's just too easy to accidentally put an unintended voltage somewhere it shouldn't be with an autotransformer.
Isn't that the truth. 😉 If the autotransformer is built right though, you can split them and turn them into a regular transformer. But just remember, if it Chinese, they have smaller Watts so claim higher ratings.