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Thought, it may also be that someone has returned an inverter to their USA collection / service site rather than ship it back to China and this is the stock they are sending out. Could also be blown up units sent in for service, written off by the owner, repaired and put up for sale again. If it were another company I wouldn't make that last observation but it is PJ so you can't rule out anything crook like that.
I guarantee you that's what happens oftentimes if the inverters ship from the Walnut, CA warehouse 😉.
Why?
Because when Sean was doing PJ repairs, that's what he did.
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Obviously, if something is repaired to original specification, there is not an issue with reselling a repaired inverter. If it's compromised in any fashion, though, it should be sold with a disclaimer / reduced price, etc.
the listing said it was new. so hopefully they don't send some refurbished garbage.
PowerJack may of blacklisted me on eBay after i sent back a damaged 15k 48-volt inverter that was damaged and then never bought it again. they have a strange way of refunding your money and then trying to sell it outside of eBay where you have no recourse.
maybe this is their way of sending out refurbished units; but eBay customer support said not to do it.
PowerJack would not send the replacement parts so i had to go through the pain of boxing up that 130 pound inverter and sending the whole thing back. this one i believe went to Sean still. i am sure they lost money on the shipping over just sending out the replacement part. so what they write and what they actually follow through with are 2 different things.
i have had to send 3 very heavy 15k and 20k inverters back for shipping damage. or maybe poor boxing protection from the sellers end!
i hope they don't sell refurbished and advertise as new. that would suck big time! 😎
did they totally quit sending returns to Sean?
of course I was just following the suggestion on the YouTube video of Sean at that time to open up the PowerJack inverter and found the shipping damage on the last 15k 48-volt inverter where they had me return it vs sending repair parts.
I now notice Sean always says not to open up the inverters in his newer videos.
just plug them in and let them fry! Ha Ha Ha! 🤣🤣
i hope they don't sell refurbished and advertise as new. that would suck big time! 😎
Oh you better believe that's exactly what they do.
Seriously, yes.
did they totally quit sending returns to Sean?
Unofficially...in other words, the most definitive information he has ever heard about that was from a customer reporting a PJ message response here on the forums:
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But to my knowledge no further returns have been sent to Sean. Kinda works out in a way, that way he can focus on GS stuff full time...
yea, kind of sad, i have been following Sean for several years.
they rob ideas, their warranty is abut 14 days in all reality before it costs more to return postage 1 or 2 ways than it may be worth. there is no way i can imagine paying freight 2 ways for the 160 pound 20k inverter that they replaced due to improper seller packaging. i was the guinea pig for that one - the 1st in the USA.
i likely have the only one made with the huge transformer and 2 lcd screens as they quit putting the lcd screens in that model as far as i know for the most part.
it took over 3 months for them to manufacture the replacement but they did replace it due to the shipping damage. the 20k 48 volt monster.
thanks for your replies. have a great Sunday; its has been raining all day here.
doing some inside electrical work!
24-volt 6000watt PowerJack AMG version PSW SP LF inverter arrived yesterday. As usual the box is beat up a bit, so had to open it. only the styrofoam took the beating. it is the smaller size, not near as long or heavy as my 8000watt inverter.
inside it has a card that states if you go to their website and register the new inverter they will extend the warranty to 15 months...????
I will open it up later, the big difference I note is it only has one 110volt outlet on the outside and the jumpers are already preinstalled on the outside of the inverter.
Also it has the 4 connections on the front to connect to a panel to output 110 or 220volts depending on how you jumper it....
it looks brand new with no indication of a used/refurbished unit>>>> so likely a container load was shipped to their Walnut California warehouse.
they seemed to have covered up the version of transformer on the box with shipping label so I will have to investigate that further also.
It included a different version manual than previous PowerJack inverters. About as helpful and informative as previous ones though!
more later 😎 have a great day all, 60 foot scissor lift coming today!! its gas/propane dual fuel, but I considered an electric one to convert to LiFePO4 but too many irons in the fire right now!
24-volt AMG 6000watt LFPSWSP-6000
label on end of box???
11.5kg;
ASSL 800 AMG -1-10.4 ( ??? not sure)
2021 8 4 likely the manufacture date
60 Hz
10.4 board???
110/220
attached is a picture
made up inverter cables yesterday, hooked up the 24-voll 6000watt powerjack amg version lf sp psw to a 24 voolt prebuilt LiFePO4 battery and no smoke came out and the garage sale treble light worked (had not tried it before),
did not open it up but wonder what the AASSL 800 AMG - 1-10.4 means as far as the transformer inside goes.
usually that ells you the transformer installed....
any ideas? see picture above.
did not open it up but wonder what the AASSL 800 AMG - 1-10.4 means as far as the transformer inside goes
Inside the box is a tag that tell the transformer size and the primary input ac voltage if it is 32 vac like the GS 32 vac and the L1 N and L2 N is perfect balanced .
The new control board should be rev11.1 with a single small board like the GS inverter with no separate output board like your new 20kw AMG .
Perfectly balanced as in same amp capacity on both legs or are they still up to the imbalanced trick? ie, if you put a 15 amp load on both legs the voltage and waveform on both legs remains very similar?
Perfectly balanced as in same amp capacity on both legs or are they still up to the imbalanced trick? ie, if you put a 15 amp load on both legs the voltage and waveform on both legs remains very similar?
That will require opening the inverter up to physically check and see if both output phases have the same number (and size) of strands...
Perfectly balanced as in same amp capacity on both legs or are they still up to the imbalanced trick? ie, if you put a 15 amp load on both legs the voltage and waveform on both legs remains very similar
It is a 6 wires transformer in the AMG . Option A is only 120vac when 2 separate 120 windings on the same core is jumper in parallel . It is what Powerjack do at first many years ago when they parallel 2 separate transformers . The output AC voltage is exactly the same on the 2 transformers to be balanced and the same is done when parallel 2 separate windings on the same core . If L1 is 119.1 volts then L2 is 119.1 volts . There is no center tap like my ASL9.0 when L1 is 116 vac and L2 is 106 vac and that is not balanced and is a problem when wired L1 N L2 . If the washer is on L2 then the motor will run hot .
Probably worded that badly, put a 15 amp load on leg 1, make observations, put the 15 amp load on leg 2, make observations. If the transformer is imbalanced windings one side will see more droop under load than the other etc.
If the 15 amps loads are placed on the windings simultaneously the current will flow around the 240V circuit with little neutral wire current, if any as dictated by variations in the load, terminal resistance etc.
Is that the HMV dog, and why does it look like the dog is looking to the side and thinking 'Is it even safe to sit on this ting?'
I was thinking the dog was thinking "Should I take a dump on it? "😁