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powerjack power inverter 26,000 watt AMG version 48 volt PSW LF 13,000 watt continuous at 240 volts or 120 volts etc.

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pilgrimvalley
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Wonder if the 26,000 watt one will do 13,000 watts continuously that it is rated at. this is one of their new style AMG versions. it is a PowerJack brand and seems to be what they are promoting now through eBay. this one does not have ac charging capability which i do not want at this time for the off-grid solar builds.

I scored one for $527.73 including tax and shipping new on auction yesterday.

has anyone seen one of these in person and hooked it up to test it?

26000W LF SP pure sine wave power inverter DC48v TO AC110V & 220V, AMG VERSION

it is estimated to arrive in in about 60 to 75 days. slow boat ride route they call speed pack.,,.. ha ha ha but i have lots of things to keep me busy until it gets here anyways.

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Wonder if the 26,000 watt one will do 13,000 watts continuously that it is rated at. this is one of their new style AMG versions

 

Sid say PJ does not understand the American "split-phase" power system.  As far as they are concerned, the inverter outputs 2 voltages, "220v", and "110v.   I  am sure your inverter will not do  one half the rate advertise .  Base on the price the inverter will  do less than  one quarter advertise rate .   Having a 6 wire transformer  will give more power for 120vac  but will not be good for  L1  N  L2  split phase circuit .  240vac is ok if  direct wired to the load .    Ebay now sell the 12000 watt AMG  for a lot  less than the  8kw that I  bought .   That tell me  something is  wrong  with the design  and  getting  less power .   I do not know what PJ  engineer is thinking  .   It is not a BMW  AMG ev car 

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In all seriousness, it's a PJ.  Do you really need to ponder that question?


   
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AMG probably refers to the design of the inverter, At Most, Garbage (that's my dig for the day).


   
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AMG probably refers to the design of the inverter, At Most, Garbage (that's my dig for the day)

You are right .  If  I  use  my  15kw  running the 4 ton heat pump for more than a hour  it will be a  AMG  PJ inverter .  It happen  when I  test  my 15kw  2 years ago  and will now use it  to  run less than  4000 watts .   After 2 hours  the 15kw  actually  blow up  FETs  LF drivers   mainboard  and capacitor  like a fourth of july fireworks  because it overheat  .   


   
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@dicksonDon't have to look much farther than your screenshot...how about 6kw???

 

36 minutes ago, dickson said:

After 2 hours  the 15kw  actually  blow up  FETs  LF drivers   mainboard  and capacitor  like a fourth of july fireworks  because it overheat  .   

That's the result of some very poor FET driving 😉.


   
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so if you guys are right the 26,000 watt PSW SP LF PowerJack power inverter AMG version will possibly do 6500 watts continuously for $527.73 including tax and shipping.

perhaps they put some SID designed parts in it. i ordered some 48-volt Delta fans so may help to add some extra cooling. right now the extra heat form the 3 inverters is helping to keep the off-grid solar power shed toasty in the snow.

the inverter is the weak link in my off-grid system at the moment. 3 inverters running 24/7 wastes a lot of power but I have lots of PV power at the moment & LIFePO4 battery storage.

I have been investing in some better testing equipment. for the winter upgrades.

I do not see any one who has actually used one of these new AMG version 26,000 watt PowerJack power inverters yet!

I will pop the top when it arrives to see what is inside.

I plan to utilize the excess solar for heating my house off-grid.

I understand your dis-like for PowerJack over rating their inverters.

 

 


   
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those are the wrong pictures. i tried to post but it is the 26000 watt one not the 12000 watt one in the pictures. i see where the confusion start now.

26000watt Pure Sine Wave Power Inverter  
SPLITE PHASE  
DC 48V to AC 110V-220V

                                                                         13000w continue power for 110V

                                                                          13000w continue power for 220V

 

 DC 48V to AC 110V & 220v  
AMG VERSION
 
OPTION A(factory setting):
110v max output: 13000w


   
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Posted by: @pilgrimvalley
perhaps they put some SID designed parts in it.

You MIGHT find a "SID LF Driver" in it.  But might not.  That's the extent of what you could expect to find, though--at least at this moment.


   
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I have an oscilloscope coming to see what can be learned. every inverter I have ordered seems to have a different transformer and this one is heavier than the 12,000 16,000 20,000 ones. so likely a heavier transformer, It just depends if they upgrade the guts or not for the higher potential output.

it is not a 12,000 watt version.

it is the 26,000 watt AMG version.

see inside in about 75 days or so, after the slow boat ride.

 


   
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I am going to run 220 volt out of it into a  Hevi-Duty 7.5KVA General Purpose Transformer 240x480 primary 120x240 secondary Type HS stepdown transformer that weighs 136 pounds to see if I can purify it a bit either at 120 or 240. it is coming next week eBay special for 372 dollars.

the test is:  will the 26000 watt inverter work and do what continuously?

All electric off-grid is the end goal with some redundancy.


   
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Posted by: @pilgrimvalley
to see if I can purify it a bit either at 120 or 240

If you're hoping to clean up the flat-topped AC waves under load...this won't do the trick.  Problem is with the actual winding of the PJ main tranny, running out of headroom, and requiring saturated drive in order to maintain the desired output voltage.

 

Posted by: @pilgrimvalley
It just depends if they upgrade the guts or not for the higher potential output.

Seriously doubt they "upgraded" the electronics at all.  Might have an ASL10 core in it...with not close to enough wire on it to meet the nameplate spec.


   
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the main entryway in my mountain getaway ranch  in Bolivia , South America. It is summer there. wish I was there but maybe in a couple months. they had to rebuild it to fit the wooden arc correctly. next week the 2 big doors will be installed. .... it is 220 volt single phase wire there now the last 3 years, before it was all built off-grid with some generator use periodically.

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it is not a 12,000 watt version.

it is the 26,000 watt AMG version.       I  know you bought the  26000 watt AMG .   I  post the picture of the 12000 watt AMG to show how bad PJ  advertise on ebay .  I estimate that this  12kw AMG  will run less than  3000 watts continous .   3000 watts is what  my  old  8kw PJ  put out .    I do not know what your 26000 kw AMG  put out but it will  be a lot less the 13000kw .    Someone on this forum  run 8000 watts with ASL10  transformer  but do not how long before  it  overheat .  


   
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you would think they (PowerJack) would/could hire someone to type correct English in their ads on eBay. that part always amuses me (their wording in their ads).

I have an 6000, 8000 and 15000 watt inverters running continuously at low power draw at the moment 24/7. but electric off-grid in a larger output out on the farm is the goal. 

I will eventually run more power tools etc.

right now just low power draws off many LIFePO4 batteries.


   
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