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I have the 12000 amg version. Just came in , running some tests now, sine wave looks good, so far I’ve put a 2000 watt continuous load
What @thebutcher said. Appliance that use a diode as a cheap way to get a "low" setting, will wreck havoc on an inverter's regulation function in such modes. In the case of a PJ, it will run the regulator into a wild oscillation--resulting in what you describe.
Thanks gents, that explains it perfectly.
before I connect this to the house, any concerns with the split phase? The sine wave looks good at 240V, But any concerns with one leg being slightly higher in voltage than the other. I suspect that won’t matter with my electric oven, but what about my ac? I do have a soft start on it, so I believe the inverter will start it
I suspect that won’t matter with my electric oven, but what about my ac? I do have a soft start on it, so I believe the inverter will start it
Again PJ engineer do not know US split phase system . If your transformer has 6 wires then it will not be good for L1 N L2 split phase . Ebay say not for L1 N L2 also .
L1 and N is 2 wires then L2 and N is 2 wires . That account for the 4 wires but there is 2 more wires for what ? If all your load is 120vac then ok for split phase wired for the house . 240 load like oven and water heater may cause the rev 11.1 control board to shut down and save the FETs . I really like to see more review on the AMG PJ inverter as I am only guessing with this 6 wires transformer design . I wish Sean will do a review on Youtube .
Thanks gents, that explains it perfectly. before I connect this to the house, any concerns with the split phase? The sine wave looks good at 240V, But any concerns with one leg being slightly higher in voltage than the other. I suspect that won’t matter with my electric oven, but what about my ac? I do have a soft start on it, so I believe the inverter will start it
Shouldn't make a difference. The 2 phases being imbalanced really won't hurt anything except a voltmeter. 240v appliances see the total, and 120v appliances see their particular phase.
If you're really bothered about the phases having different voltages, you can technically correct that yourself by adding a few turns of wire to the transformer on the low phase (L side of the appropriate phase, not the junction "N").
Expect the sine wave to begin flattening out under moderate loads 😉.
L1 and N is 2 wires then L2 and N is 2 wires . That account for the 4 wires but there is 2 more wires for what ?
There is the 2 wires for the primary input for the transformer . I like to know if it is 36vac or 32vac or 30vac or 26vac which is too low for 48v DC battery . If the transformer core is ASL4 then no more than 3000 watts continuous as my 8kw PJ is a ASL 4 . Thank you for the first review on this forum .
Mine only has 4. See pictures
I see 4 white wires L1 and N and then L2 and N on the right side of picture . On the left side is 2 black wires which is the primary wires to the control board FETs ac side heat sink . This is the new AMG transformer that replace all the old 5 wires transformer . That why the 5 wires 15kw that was 800 dollars is now 1500 dollars and will be no more when all is sold on ebay .
Hey @scoops, out of curiosity, can you provide the following info about the transformer in your inverter? I'm more curious than anything else...see if I can guess approximately what the max continuous load should be 😉.
- how many strands of wire are on the output AC lines (you can pull back the white sheath to see the strands)--likely all 4 AC output lines will have the same number of strands (being an "AMG" inverter)
- how many strands of wire on the "MOSFET" lines (the wires bolting directly to the heatsinks)?
- what's the nameplate tag on the transformer (if provided)? (This has voltages and core size listed.)
Haha, so they ARE copying the Genetry spec somewhat.........
...they used to be 36v/230v, but the GS spec is 32v/240v.
10 strands on the "DC" side...and if there's 2 strands on the "AC" side, that's basically textbook GS6 spec. Have my doubts as to whether it really is an ASL2--that's a really tiny tranny core.
Gotta love it.
If it's got a single strand on the "AC" side, that'd quantify the ASL2 core--but I quite doubt it, as it'd be overheating pretty easy at 3kw.
Well I can’t easily see the strands on the white wires. They are heat shrinked, but they feel like just one wire in each
the diameter of the transformer is about 7” if that means anything.
I was hoping to get 6000 watts out of it. I Will say the fan is very powerful, and comes on with a 1000 watt load.
i will do some testing tomorrow and also take temp of transformer at various loads.
Well I can’t easily see the strands on the white wires. They are heat shrinked, but they feel like just one wire in each
7" diameter...well, that puts it at definitely smaller than a GS6 tranny (~8" diameter). Right in the range for an ASL2 core actually.
You'd definitely be able to feel if there were 2 strands on the white wires (just checked a GS6, haha!) Single strand AC mains side and an ASL2 core kinda puts you in the 3kw continuous max before overheating...due to a lack of wire on the AC mains side. Which is kinda implied/indicated by the fan coming on with a 1kw load.
Hey, it's a PJ, what else did you expect??!
Lol. True, I didn’t have high expectations going in. Truth be told I’ll be driving this from a 3k dc 48Vdc generator so I figured that it would run cooler if I had the 6000 watt ceiling. It will be interesting to see how hot it gets at 3000 continuous.
Haha, so they ARE copying the Genetry spec somewhat.........
...they used to be 36v/230v, but the GS spec is 32v/240v
Transformer in picture look smaller than my old ASL4 five wires transformer . I just measure the ASL4 transformer is 7 and 1/2 inch diameter . Your picture look the same as the tiny mini rev 11.1 control board that has no charging and no ac output board . The old 9kw PJ with the ASL5 five wires transformer and separate ac output board will output more than the AMG 6 wires transformer for sure .
PV, if you get an inverter that will do 6500w continuous for $527 and all you have to add are some faster fans, then I would say you did well!