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Your picture look the same as the tiny mini rev 11.1 control board that has no charging and no ac output board .
Ha, if the PJ 10.3 / 11.1 boards count as "tiny mini", then you haven't seen the scale comparison to a fully loaded Genetry Solar Rev. C control board. They're about 2/3rds the size of the PJ boards...with AC input + charge + generator start + auto AC input voltage switching + FET current limit + AC input/output current monitoring, etc., etc. (PJ board being ~6.5x7.5", GS board being ~4.5x4.5")
It will be interesting to see how hot it gets at 3000 continuous.
Probably somewhere around 160-180F.
Ha, if the PJ 10.3 / 11.1 boards count as "tiny mini", then you haven't seen the scale comparison to a fully loaded Genetry Solar Rev. C control board.
I seen your rev c board on youtube and it is tiny . PJ making the rev 11.1 control board small is trying to copy the GS small size . I like to see the size of the main board or picture of the 12000 watt AMG mainboard . Helen of PJ say PJ design a new mainboard even smaller than the GS mainboard which has room for 2 capacitors and each mosboard has room for only 4 FETs .
PJ making the rev 11.1 control board small is trying to copy the GS small size .
Nope, the 11.1 control board is the same size as the 10.3(c). 10.3 is actually BIGGER than the 9.0 it replaced.
Jack says the GS boards "may need to be a little bigger" 😉.
Helen of PJ say PJ design a new mainboard even smaller than the GS mainboard which has room for 2 capacitors and each mosboard has room for only 4 FETs .
That design has been around for quite a few years already, and was used in their smallest inverters. I've got one in my hand right now that's dated October 2007 (v2.3)
PV, if you get an inverter that will do 6500w continuous for $527 and all you have to add are some faster fans, then I would say you did well!
I like to know if it is a ASL10 transformer core . PJ on Ebay did have a ASL10 transformer on sale for 900 dollars but no more . A 5 wires ASL10 transformer will do 8000 watts according to someone on this forum .
That design has been around for quite a few years already, and was used in their smallest inverters. I've got one in my hand right now that's dated October 2007 (v2.3)
If Scoops 12000 watts AMG has that tiny mainboard with 2 capacitors then it will have a hard time starting an inductive load surge like a microwave oven . That not enough capacitor for inductive surge . The price on ebay is less than what I pay for the 8kw with a mainboard that has 4 capacitors and 40 FETs . Nobody will buy a GS 12kw if they can buy a 12000 watt PJ on ebay right ? If they only know how PJ lie right ?
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I can take a look at the main board, it looks like just 4 screws holding the board above it down?
I can see one of the caps, they are purple, not the black.
The board on top says v 11.3
Bolivia information is not well documented . it is a landlocked 3rd world country that is rich in natural resources.
The one picture look like you grow a lots of corn . I use to live in Iowa where the corn field is next to the residence and corn is everywhere . I think Bolivia now has one of the largest lithium mine in the world .
If Scoops 12000 watts AMG has that tiny mainboard with 2 capacitors then it will have a hard time starting an inductive load surge like a microwave oven . That not enough capacitor for inductive surge .
Not necessarily. The capacitors in an LF inverter are NOT responsible for the surge capability. Compared to the total load, they don't store any significant amount of power.
The purpose of the capacitors in an LF inverter are to dampen the kickback resulting from the huge amperages, and prevent the battery cables from killing the FETs with inductive kickback.
I've never seen the "tiny" mainboard in anything except their "6kw" inverters or smaller. But to be fair, they basically turn the "mid" mainboards into the "tiny" ones by putting only 4 FETs/board and 2 caps/board.
Specification:
Brand |
Power Jack |
Item no. |
LFPSW-26000-48-110/220 |
Continuous Output Power |
13000W |
Max Output Power |
52000W |
DC Input Voltage |
48V |
AC Output Voltage |
110V/220V |
Regulation |
±5% |
Frequency |
60HZ±3% |
Efficiency |
90% |
Output Wave Form |
Pure Sine Wave |
Temperature Protection |
70C |
Input Low Voltage Alarm |
42V |
Input Low Voltage shutdown |
41V |
Input High Voltage Alarm |
59V |
Input High Voltage shutdown |
>60V |
Dimension |
700*435*200 mm |
Warranty |
1 year |
Weight |
42Kgs |
Certificate |
CE |
Components |
Made in Taiwan |
Design |
Taiwan |
92 pounds evidently for the 26k AMG version. 42ks = 92.4 pounds approximately.
Brand
Power Jack
Item no.
LFPSW-26000-48-110/220
Continuous Output Power
13000W
The AMG 6 wires transformer which has 2 separate 120vac secondary windings around one core can probably do one quarter of 26000 watts and so max is 6500 watts continue . The 5 wires ASL10 transformer can do 8000 watts . The problem is that if PJ can sell a 13000 watt inverter for that low price then no one will buy a GS 12kw inverter . The last youtube video say Sean will probably sell the GS 12kw for 2 and 1/2time to 3 times of the GS 6kw .
The problem is that if PJ can sell a 13000 watt inverter for that low price then no one will buy a GS 12kw inverter .
I more than seriously doubt it'll do 13kw continuous. Shipping weight is too low, and I believe the biggest core they use in the "big box" inverters (due to weight and size) is the ASL9--which is only capable of 13kw+ if it's wound with copper. And copper is triple the cost of aluminum, so I can guarantee that they did not use copper.
Expect 6-8kw continuous if you're lucky.
The last youtube video say Sean will probably sell the GS 12kw for 2 and 1/2time to 3 times of the GS 6kw .
He did not say that.
What Sean did say was that the cost likely will not be a linear "double" from the 6kw. However, the competitors sell a 12kw inverter for roughly $3500-4500, and our 12kw should be quite a bit less than that...with a lot more features.
$2500 would be a lot to pay. i am buying a separate 200 amp Square D Q main panel and 100 amp rated 3phase disconnects. the inverters have circuit breaker built in but I do not trust them. I have never paid more than $700 for the 15,000 and 20,000 watt inverters and only $527 for the 26,000 watt AMG one. i would have to go back in my records to see the exact prices of the previous models.
if they will only produce 25 percent of their claim, I will have to run more than one as I am doing at the moment to keep them under their heat/failure threshold.
have to see what they send me via the so called speed pack shipping direct from china on the slow boat ride in about another 30 plus days or so.
PowerJack warranty is short but the cost to ship them anywhere essentially ends their warranty as it would cost most of the price of buying a replacement. maybe that is their business model, disposable inverters. I have 3 running 24/7 but at very low loads. 2 of them have been running continuously for over a year and the other one the 15000 watt 3 piece one has been running continuously since August.
the shipping on the 139 to 156 pound 7.5KVA transformer was 200 one way.
repair shipping is a killer especially when you have to ship it both ways and pay parts and labor after the 1 year warranty expires which only give you 30 day free shipping if there is a problem.
the gs6 is $1099 on the website and 2.5 times that would make the price over $2500 plus shipping. that is what he (Sean) said on the last YouTube video for a price guestimate for the 12k gs inverter. I was thinking maybe it would be more in the 1500 dollar range. i will try to watch Sean's 12k promotional video again.
actually the 15,000 watt 3 piece ss inverter cost me $810 with tax and free shipping in 2021.
hopefully the PowerJack 26,000 watt AMG version is not a big flop. but at $527 including tax and shipping it is still a fairly inexpensive inverter. hope for the best!
the gs6 is $1099 on the website and 2.5 times that would make the price over $2500 plus shipping. that is what he (Sean) said on the last YouTube video for a price guestimate for the 12k gs inverter. I was thinking maybe it would be more in the 1500 dollar range.
Expecting only a $400 increase for double the shipping weight, more than double the internal parts, considerably bigger chassis, etc., etc.??
Costs are real. We would go bankrupt if we sold the GS 12kw inverter for $1500. But unlike even the "26,000W" PJ units, the GS 12kw inverter will actually do a solid 12,000W all day long. I don't know if PJ even sells an inverter that will truly do 12kw continuous output.
The reason PJ can sell such big nameplate units for so cheap...is because they aren't capable of doing anything close to what they advertise. Like always, you get what you pay for.
I use parts on GS inverters that cost considerably more than PJ...because they do what we want/need them to. Our power button costs 10x PJ's power switch. The GS AC input relays cost closer to 18x what PJ's relays cost. And on down the list.