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its funny but then again it is not...
a friend bought a chinese welder and it had a one year warranty but broke down...
he said they have had it for a couple months....then he went on to say .... he hopes they dont use all the warranty time to fix it....
junk...
i always avoided chinese tools and bought german or brazil tools when in Bolivia....
a lot of china made copy cat stuff ---- who is any good???? a crap shoot>>>
well a ASL5 is not an ASL5 is not an ASL5 transformer.
12 degrees below 0 Fahrenheit here this morning.. maybe sunny but dxx cold...
hard to say what an ASL5 means in all reality??? maybe??? more Speculation????
i doubt there is any truth in speculation of the 26000 watt AMG ability.
the transformer is massive about 10 inch diameter. there are two main boards inside. looks like 4 capacitors although i could not read any specifications on them.
the terroidal transformer reminds me of the one i seen in the 20,000 watt PowerJack I bought a couple years ago as far as physical size goes... it arrived like a bowling ball inside that box and had to be sent back...i was their guiney pig in the rush to send one out without proper transformer hold downs and poor packaging. they did pay to replace that one...ship it 3 times...doubt they made too much profit on that one....
there is no physical damage that i can see... the transformer bracket has a center bolt plus 3 cross-over brackets to secure it down with an additional 12 bolts.
the six feet on the bottom is a good design as 4 feet support the heavy end where the transformer is located. the other 2 feet would balance where the main boards and dc converter boards are located. no real weight on that end but the 2 24volt dc fans are on that end with one blowing across each main boards with the mosfets and such and then down across the transformer so should be good air flow.
this 26000 watt PowerJack AMG PSW SP LF inverter >>>still may end up as a fairly good buy for $527 dollars including tax and delivery on ebay auction. the delivery part was 200 bucks i think.. but was included in the total so not an issue...
it may well do the rated 13,000 watts continuous output....time will tell...
the case in assemble with 10mm bollts in a modular fashion and the fit was great. ihe hard part was getting them all lined up to put the top back on 18 bolts woth 10mm heads. the ss box is built well and makes the 8000 watt amg inverter look like a toy as far as physical size comparisons go.
it is about 18 x 24 inches not including the dc post on the back or the circuit breaker and ac connection, switches etc that stick out further on the front.
did not try to count strands or measure transformer wire but it is thick...an hour and 15 minutes at least to take the lid off and replace it. and snap some photos.
looks like one thermister,, but did not look too hard. had to reasseble before the people got up as i was doing it in the middle of the dining room in the wee morning hours. and tools and things must be moved out of the way...
this one may be a good candidate for the 200 amp Square D QO plug on neutral main breaker box...at least to try it out...
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I've only been aware of capacitor failure in the PJ inverters when they were using the black-wrap caps--dodgy junk that would leak/fail very quickly.
yes, the electrical engineer used a modest 1 hour per day to get the projected 10 year capacitor life span ... i think he was using quality panasonic capacitors in his example predicticting the MPPT solar charge controller would have an approximate 10 year life before failure.
the inverters would likely run hot depending on their ambient temperature location... not much problem in the winter but in the summertime the issue is to keep the inverter in a 70 degree room would be helpful...or somewhat cooler as LIFePO4 batteries don't like high heat either...
the battery bank is the most expensive part....
summer heat was the issue after battling the winter freeze the last few years. i was most worried of not freezing the LIFePO4 cells in winter so insulated well. the problem came trying to keep it cooler in summer's heat.
well a ASL5 is not an ASL5 is not an ASL5 transformer.
ASL5 according to the charts, indicates the core size. Does not have anything to do with the winding specification.
the transformer is massive about 10 inch diameter.
A GS-specced ASL5 measures ~8" in diameter. What I see in your photos looks a tad bigger, likely an ASL6.5...though if the label says ASL5, then we've got to talk with PJ 😉.
You should easily be able to count the number of strands in the winding specification.
there are two main boards inside. looks like 4 capacitors although i could not read any specifications on them.
Ah, gotta love it: they're actually using the "baby boards"........
looks like one thermister,, but did not look too hard. had to reasseble before the people got up as i was doing it in the middle of the dining room in the wee morning hours. and tools and things must be moved out of the way...
There's going to be two, the other one's hidden underneath on a MOSFET mainboard.
it may well do the rated 13,000 watts continuous output....time will tell...
Seriously doubt that. We're reaching 12,000W continuous on the GS12 with a much bigger transformer--and that's with a fully maxed out winding spec.
looks like 32 mosfets...
this transformer would not fit in the gs-6 box..
the gs-12 should look into this box style form factor ... i like it...the boxes' form factor....performance is yet to be determined??
few would wall mount a super heavy inverter anyways.
this 26000watt powerjack psw sp lf amg inverter box could not be wall mounted.... not designed that way at all.
the ss case is robust compared to the 8k amg version...
may need 2 people to man-handle these things... at least my back always complains to me after doing the lifting....of these heavy inverters....
the hydraulic lift table/cart is out in the unheated frozen garage/shop so it is a punt and i would never hear the end of get that thing out of here from the other half... if i had that cart in the house.... cold or no cold....
the new baby sheep was out in the sun this morning....a black singlet...often twins and triplets but the young mamma's first...so all is well outside in the south dakota deep freeze this morning...😎
the solar power shed was 62 degrees without the heat lamp this morning ,,,, so 3 lf inverters and a transformer and some led lights running gave a little heat to it overnight... it is super insulated....I always check in cold weather....protect the expensive lifepo4 batteries!!!🤔😎
have a great Friday all!
there are two main boards inside. looks like 4 capacitors although i could not read any specifications on them.
Ah, gotta love it: they're actually using the "baby boards"........
This is the tiny baby mini new mainboard from PJ that suppose to stop all crosstalk by the short trace on the board . Four total capacitors is not enough for 240vac surge but for 120vac as default wired is ok i estimate one quarter of PJ advertise 26000 watt is 6500 watts and that will not be continuous ac output .
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it has the warning about the ac choke prominently displayed on the outside...but no direction how to do it or wire it up at all....
maybe have to add some capacitors on the outside somehow in the future.... do the sean frankenstein build???
the guy on youtube with the powerjack 12000 watt amg was getting up to 6000 watts out of his...but at 120 volts
he is going to hook up to his house and do 240 volt demo shortly....
maybe he can show more in his videos....
it has the warning about the ac choke prominently displayed on the outside...but no direction how to do it or wire it up at all...
I posted on this forum how to wire the 490uh choke to the ac output and how to wire to the dc input . I have to find the pictures . The choke probably not do anything with 120vac surge and the rev 10.3 control board will shut your inverter down with red light alarm before the FETs get damage . Wired for 240ac a choke will help with surge but you need two as one for L1 and one for L2 but I have to find the pictures .
i think it says11.3 control board ..... not sure ... have to look at it again...
i blew the picture up but the cell phone cameraman is not very good(me)
it looks like it says Power Jack 11.3v 2021.05 for what ever that may mean...
a version manufactured in the 5th month of 2021 possibly???
tell the cameraman to use a better camera and turn on the lights. there is no overhead light in this room...yet...
i think it says11.3 control board ..... not sure ... have to look at it again...
NOT the rev10.3 control board that I type sorry . It is the rev 11.3 control board that protect the FETs . Picture of the choke I found .
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the guy on youtube with the powerjack 12000 watt amg was getting up to 6000 watts out of his...but at 120 volts
Yeah, for 10 seconds before it shut down, with 120v loads on both phases. Long term continuous output will be quite a bit lower.
This is the tiny baby mini new mainboard from PJ that suppose to stop all crosstalk by the short trace on the board .
Like I've said before...this design is nothing new. The "baby board" I have is dated Nov 2016...and has the exact same PCB trace routing issues as all the other boards.
Yeah, for 10 seconds before it shut down, with 120v loads on both phases. Long term continuous output will be quite a bit lower.
Could the rev 11.3 control board sense the AC 120 output current and shut down the inverter at 2200 watts ? If the current is 20 amps time 120v is 2200 watts and shut down to save the wires and happen to same the FETs at the same time . This make the inverter not as useable as the transformer can handle more load . So if wired for 240vac then if one leg see 20 amps then the whole 240vac output will shut down way too soon .
Could the rev 11.3 control board sense the AC 120 output current and shut down the inverter at 2200 watts ? If the current is 20 amps time 120v is 2200 watts and shut down to save the wires and happen to same the FETs at the same time . This make the inverter not as useable as the transformer can handle more load . So if wired for 240vac then if one leg see 20 amps then the whole 240vac output will shut down way too soon .
No.
I will reiterate: there is NO "magic changes" or "secret improvements" to the v11.1 board. It's identical--both functionally and designwise--to the 10.3 boards. (With the exceptions of the added "charger amp limit" circuit, and an upgraded fan control MOSFET.) It does seem they may have tweaked a resistor in the transformer current feedback circuit, causing it to shut down a lot sooner--but this has absolutely nothing to do with a FET battery current limit.
Like all PJ boards going back to v4 (or whatever the oldest board I have is)...there is only ONE current sensor that is monitored. It's usually on the transformer L1 circuit.
That's it.
the video shows him running up to 6000 watts before it shuts down later in the video with a 12,000 watt amg powerjack. it show an alarm at higher watts and a safety shut down which is a good thing actually...
he ran more than one test but they were all with space heaters, hair dryers, and heat guns to get up to the 6000 watt shut down point...with the PowerJack 12,000 watt AMG version...for 300 dollars it seemed like a fair bargain as he said he only wants to run it at 3000 watts anyway...
but again it is a lot smaller transformer than the Powerjack 26,000 watt 48volt PSW SP LF AMG version.... so definitely not an apples to apples comparison; more like an apples to oranges comparison....
Sean has never received any of these newer versions for warranty repairs????
he would have better fan cooling if the lid was on as the wind tunnel is really ineffective with the lid removed...
Are hose the same fans as the GS inverters??? they made a lot of wind noise in his demo, so fairly high velocity fans...
In his video all is done with 120volts and the 220 - 240 volt hook up was not demonstrated. i asked him and he will do an updated video soon. maybe glean a little more information via his next testing video... he said he was going to hook it up to his house breaker panels; so that should be informative...
not saying I know any of the changes or things as i can not reverse engineer anything they may have changed in an 11.3 control board...
i still need/want to see what it will do...but do not want to fry it right out of the box....i prefer the smoke does not escape by doing the dum dum things...
the ss case is a very modular bolt together case that would be very helpful to have easy access....it is thick and a lot better design than the previous 15,000 and 20,000 watt big boxes that were painted black and had the 2 lcd screens in the front...but again with the manual ratchet i was a bit slow taking the top off. a drill with a socket would be a lot faster no doubt.
oh the stainless steel case is not magnetic (but the assembly bolts are magnetic)so the bolts are likely a galvanized or lower grade stainless steel than the case is... not a metal expert but just another observation on the removal of the top...
I plan to hook it up to a 120/240 breaker panel, but no exact time frame yet...
lambing season has begun....so time is short....
thanks for all the input and replies!!!
the weekend in here and today the sun gods are out,,, charging everthing up and wasting power today...😎