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PowerJack 30000 watt LF PSW SP 2 stainless steel case delivery February 2023

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pilgrimvalley
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these are the same units they are selling( at least advertising for 2000 to 4000 dollars... to compete with who???? 

maybe they are competing with code robbing reverse engineers???? because they can for pennies and still make money in high volume sales....

jack is not sitting around doing nothing....


   
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my winning bid which i never even place was 713.00 dollars it di dthe same type of jump from 300 to over 680 then i won at $713 without bidding.... how can that be???? must be an temporary way to use other peoples money but i utilized paypal with my credit card so have t see how it works out...

The new 30kw Powerjack  forever  inverter is worth 1000 dollars just for the transformer .     The transformer  has 2 separate secondary  windings  like the GS12kw transformer but a lot bigger .  IT should run a 4 ton heat pump easy .    Ebay  message  that I  will get full refund if not deliver on the date the seller  say  on the auction .    ALL the money to this seller is on HOLD  and ready to be refunded .      The other ebay sellers  are  ok  with ebay  .   


   
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PowerJack 30000 watt LF PSW SP inverter 2 case module AMG4 version :

PowerJack 30k inverter:

elusive 30K transformer box 

the transformer is about 11.25 inches diameter by 6 inches tall, and has 3 different hold down brackets, the case is thin stainless steel

it has an AC in plug for test only that goes directly to l1 and n1

all screws were removed with the Milwaukee ECX bit made specifically for electric screws,>>>>,,,,worked like a charm for screw removal 

the transformer box has two brushless 48 volt high quality fans(that is what is printed on them)

there is a large choke with windings off the transformer going thru it....

all windings have protective coverings

label is 32 volt in

pieces and parts seem pretty good


   
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the transformer is about 11.25 inches diameter by 6 inches tall, and has 3 different hold down brackets, the case is thin stainless steel 

Your  AMG ASL10.0  is 1/2 inch bigger than the old  5 wires  ASL 10.0  with  primary 36 vac .     Your new ASL10.0  has 32 vac primary like the     GS6kw primary 32vac .    I do not know what the  GS12kw primary is .   The 2 separate secondary  is like the GS12kw secondary .   I remove all the brackets and    the  center bolt on  my  transformer .      


   
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PowerJack 30000 watt LF PSW SP inverter 2 case module AMG4 version :

PowerJack 30k inverter:

elusive 30K transformer box 

it seems rather odd though >>> the AC in test plug,,,,,why??? because the ground pin is grounded to the case,,,,, why is that an issue??? 

because if you connect to the AC electric grid the only place that the equipment ground is inter connected is at the main bonding screw....so it would be a dead short if you utilized the ac grid as the test ac in......correct????

I would need to run an extension cord out to the off grid power shed to get a floating L, N, and G....

beyond what some people understand about grounding ????

(((( I think the AC in test female plug is strictly to be used to test the transformer box all by itself to ensure there is no damage and it functions correctly))))

i do not hook any PowerJack  inverters to the grid,,,,as that is just dumb, and asking for trouble....IMO

i am an electrical neophyte but have a fairly good working knowledge of AC main Breaker panels....

the case ground >>>>> hmmm HMMM there is no terminal for the case ground on the transformer box that you connect to from the outside of the case.....so when the short occurs the case will be hot/live to the touch.... hmmmm HMMM have to investigate that more....

there are 4 separate secondary windings covered in white protective mesh that go to L1, N1, N2, and L2,

there are a lot more primary windings >> i will have to look closer.... there are 12 primary winding leads 6 to the negative and 6 to the positive(split 3 to each large terminal post...seems like the gs12k and is tagged at 32 volts....the primary wires are covered with black tubing (likely a shrink type protective tubing)....

thanks for the replies

 

 

 

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the case ground >>>>> hmmm HMMM there is no terminal for the case ground on the transformer box that you connect to from the outside of the case.....so when the short occurs the case will be hot/live to the touch.... hmmmm HMMM have to investigate that more.

I  connect a copper wire  from the transformer cover screw to the control box  cover screw for  grounding the 2 boxes .    For RV or boat that has no ground rod the  Neutral is bonded to the  inverter case .     The Neutral is floating if connected to the house  and the ground is to the ground rod  next to the main entrance .    

it seems rather odd though >>> the AC in test plug,,,,,why??? because the ground pin is grounded to the case,,,,, why is that an issue??      ........      That  AC in test plug  is not to be connected to  grid  or extension cord  .    It  is for testing  to see if  the ptimary  winding  has  AC  input  or  secondary has  AC   output  .    That  test plug should not be on the transformer box  or someone may damage the control board  by pluging into it .   Best not to touch it .  


   
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there are a lot more primary windings >> i will have to look closer.... there are 12 primary winding leads 6 to the negative and 6 to the positive(split 3 to each large terminal post...seems like the gs12k and is tagged at 32 volts....the primary wires are covered with black tubing (likely a shrink type protective tubing)...       

The 6  positive primary wire is the size of the  large cable in the control box  to  the 2 AC side heat sink .     The same with the 6 negative  primary .   The large cable show that  the inverter  should output   at least  9000 watts .    The  32 vac primary  is the same as the first GS12kw  prototype .       Sean  do not know what the new transformer  GS12KW  primary  voltage is  but say maybe  30 vac on youtube .   


   
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PowerJack 30000 watt LF PSW SP inverter 2 case module AMG4 version :

PowerJack 30k inverter:

elusive 30K transformer box 

I am thinking of adding two external thick copper busbars to connect the 2 external positive and 2 external negative terminals ( they are already connected inside the transformer case anyways((( but with undetermined wire size ))), >>> ,,by adding the external busbars I can more easily connect the large 4/0 copper cables with large tinned copper lugs and be sure the connection is rock solid....no arcing for me....

some of the internal chassis wiring could easily be upgraded as well for a small investment...

12 primary wires = 6 pairs of primary wire windings  coming into the 30000 watt LF PSW SP transformer...DC input (32 volts in) actually it would be 32 volts AC already so their labeling is a bit mis-leading as is per-usual... ((I think) I only an electrical neophyte so please don't trust my full description) all needs to be tested yet...🤔

and 4 secondary windings going out of the step-up transformer covered in a white mesh that go to L! N1 N2 and L2 on the back outside terminal blocks ... 120 volts out

it sure looks like the real MaCoy.....hope it will be a winner,,,,,

it is a heavy ASL10 transform AMG4 version.....man handling with ben t legs trying to turn so not to kill my back off ..... all the threaded machine screws came out and all went back in so far so good....just need to replace the broken terminal block on L1 and N1....  🤔🤔😎

a balmy 18 degrees Fahrenheit so I will go do some more interior clean up today etc... and avoid the cold weather as much as possible....


   
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PowerJack 30000 watt LF PSW SP inverter 2 case module AMG4 version :

PowerJack 30k inverter:

elusive 30K transformer box 

the PowerJack seller is sending the 2pcs of 2 terminal black connector to repair the 30k transformer box.... hope soon...

I will get more pictures and remove the inner transformer brackets in a few more days maybe.....

I was super busy doing repairs on rental house installing new exterior doors ( making them 36 inch wide vs 32 inch wide existing doorways to the basement entrances....and some cement threshold work so never a dull moment...

I hired / found a 65 year old carpenter to help yesterday....he is retired but has 47 years of experience as a carpenter..... and tells many of the same sad stories ..... you can not get the young folks to work as they seem to think they are entitled or something.....🤔🤔😎

it is supposed to snow on Monday or Tuesday.. hope they are wrong....still scooping ice and snow away...


   
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it seems rather odd though >>> the AC in test plug,,,,,why??? because the ground pin is grounded to the case,,,,, why is that an issue?? ........ That AC in test plug is not to be connected to grid or extension cord . It is for testing to see if the ptimary winding has AC input or secondary has AC output . That test plug should not be on the transformer box or someone may damage the control board by pluging into it . Best not to touch it .

thanks for confirming that to me.....that is kind of what i was thinking that the test plug should not be used for anything on the transformer box and will not connect it to anything... thanks for confirming that...


   
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PowerJack 30000 watt LF PSW SP inverter 2 case module AMG4 version :

PowerJack 30k inverter:

elusive 30K transformer box 

I received 4 replacement terminal blocks yesterday 3/20/2023,,,,via FedEx,,,,,one terminal block was damaged but the other three were fully intact.

it is amazing how even though it was a terribly light package inside a bubble wrapping inside a cardboard box inside 3 shipping bags one still gets damaged....

FedEx or somewhere along the shipping route must just pile this stuff up with no concern of shipping damages...

but at any rate i only needed one and have 2 spares plus a slightly damaged spare terminal block,,,, they were shipping from China....i  believe....😎🤔🤔🤔

20 days from the date the seller said they would express ship the replacement parts,,,,, so still not too bad timing!!!!


   
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PowerJack 30000 watt LF PSW SP inverter 2 case module AMG4 version :

PowerJack 30k inverter:

elusive 30K transformer box 

edit: the tracking of the terminal blocks shows they were shipped from Hong Kong on the 13th of March and arrived at my mailbox on the 20th of March so the express shipping was 8 days...


   
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the tracking of the terminal blocks shows they were shipped from Hong Kong 

This Hong Kong seller got ebay to remove all  negative  review  .     This buyer  pay  345 dollars for a 20000 watts Powerjack   .    Ebay  put a hold on the money to this seller  until  I  recieve all the items   I won on the seller  auction  .      This seller  is making  delivery to me  and  will  probably not be renove  from ebay  .     He  has warehouse   in  Philadelphia and  East Lansing and Walnut  .   

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i received an offer from helen (aka ANA ) who wanted to sell me some returnerd 20k and 26k inverters for reasonable price but they did not know what was wrong with them...  i think they are all the same seller,,, just more than one ebay account...

i have lately utilized paypal and still waiting for another order.... it is in limbo land right now due to the long projected ship times....

seems like a bad game they play to tarnish their reputation...

i have had two sellers disappear after i made complaints but the product did actually arrive eventually from powerjack,,,,

they know who they sell too... i still think they hacked the system or they are just too big of an ebay account so ebay puts up with them,,,

remember when sid talked them up as they had a good working relationship... i think powerjack just slowed their unwanted competition and sean never paid for the stuff he is peddling...

dum and dummer will keep dreaming


   
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 They are just too big of an ebay account so ebay puts up with them,    ,......           Powerjack is big amd powerful  on ebay  so ebay  remove the negative  review .  You  know the relation with Jack is good  if  Genetry Solar had  pre-order   500  GS12kw  inverters .     Jack is not going to waste his time  making  less  than 20  inverters  and not  using  any Powerjack parts  .                                                                                                                                                                YOU   received an offer from helen (aka ANA ) who wanted to sell   some returnerd 20k and 26k inverters for reasonable price but they did not know what was wrong with them.  ......    I  do not know if  Helen is  ANA  but  since you do  not have a bench test  to test each  pieces of  the inverter  I  do not  want to buy  as  she give NO Warranty  like  Sean  rebuilt  15kw  inverter .    One bad  FETs   will blow up  the inverter  and  2  complete mainboards is 400 dollars  and  a    rev 11.3 control board is 120 dollars .     This is why  Helen  is selling  so cheap  as over   500  dollars  is the cost to repair  very likely .     A  working  25kw  Powerjack  is  550 dollars  on  ebay  auction  and has  warranty  for DIY  repair  like  mosboard  and LF driver  and breaker and terminals .   The auction  ebay  seller  is hiding my  auction items  for 5  months  but I expect to get  delivery   or  paypal   will  teach the seller a lesson  again .   


   
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