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Neat any chance you can point of the basics on the board, I think I guessed them. Since you have one figure you have the general sections figured out. Are those daughter boards easy to get? Guessing the it uses the same generic ones others use, but not sure so wanted to ask. Nice learning project.
It all comes down to MOSFET drive and protection. Sometimes adding a good dose of being "so bad that it actually works" helps quite a bit. (It's amazing how much of a "Whack-A-Mole" things become when you try to improve a design with numerous design flaws!)
If the FET drive isn't strong enough to firmly switch the FETs, you'll get a lot more heat off the FETs--but if that's not a problem, you might be pretty well set! Switching the FETs cleanly results in almost no FET heat even at full load--but a plethora of other entertaining situations have to be taken care of to prevent failure!
Worth noting that you're going to be awfully hard pressed to find a PJ transformer that will do 9kw continuously, 24/7...
Are those daughter boards easy to get? Guessing the it uses the same generic ones others use, but not sure so wanted to ask
The daughter board is the EG 8010 with the red light and cost about 13 dollars . The company is SUNYIMA that make the most reliable EG 8010 inverter on Aliexpress . EG 8010 inverter has the main board with heat sink and capacitors and mosfets that replace the PJ mainboard . The daughter board EG 8010 mounted vertical is like the LF driver of the PJ inverter . The rest of the circuit board control output ac voltage and overload current and dc overvoltage of battery and dc undervoltage of battery and auto shutdown if overtemperature . The ASL9.0 PJ transformer is what I connect to the EG 8010 from SUNYIMA . For 200 dollars include the inverter board and wires and instruction and diagram . Most PJ 48v inverter transformer is 36vac primary so order the 60v dc model according to SUNYIMA . I only run my EG 8010 to 100 watts and stop . I like to know how he get 9 kw as people with working EG 8010 inverter do not talk . The oz inverter forum say the EG 8010 op amp 339 which shut down the inverter to protect the inverter will blow up the FETs cause by the voltage spike back emf during shut down . I diable the op amp 339 on my EG 8010 and now no voltage spike during shut down but have only over temperature protection .
I do not think any PJ inverter can do 9kw with the rev 11.3 control board as the red light alarm will shut it down .
The daughter board is the EG 8010 with the red light and cost about 13 dollars
Thanks, I may grab one. It will be interesting to use to learn more without being stressed I am going to burn up something that I like. Sounds like its more of an experimental type kit item. Well I may wait a bit to see what stuff Sean sells for other fun projects.
It will be interesting to use to learn more without being stressed I am going to burn up something that I like. Sounds like its more of an experimental type kit item. Well I may wait a bit to see what stuff Sean sells for other fun projects.
Ali express sell the EG 8010 alone and inverter board with EG 8010 and mosfets ready for any powerjack transformer . For a 12vdc inverter the transformer has a 8 vac primary . For a 24vdc DIY inverter then a transformer has 16vac primary and a 48vdc inverter the transformer primary is 28vc that powerjack do not make . my ASL9,0 transformer has 36vac primary then my inverter is a 60vdc system . The output ac voltage is 60 hz single phase 120 ac or 240vac only and no split phase .
It will be interesting to use to learn more without being stressed I am going to burn up something that I like. Sounds like its more of an experimental type kit item. Well I may wait a bit to see what stuff Sean sells for other fun projects.
In the photo of your EG 8010 board there is a copper 40A power connector to the pcb board. It looks like fits into a round terminal hole. I need something like that for my supercapacitor board. What is it called?
For a 12vdc inverter the transformer has a 8 vac primary . For a 24vdc DIY inverter then a transformer has 16vac primary and a 48vdc inverter the transformer primary is 28vc that powerjack do not make . my ASL9,0 transformer has 36vac primary then my inverter is a 60vdc system .
Umm...your numbers aren't scaling correct. If 48vDC = 28vAC primary, that means that the following have to be true:
- 60vDC -> 35vAC primary
- 48vDC -> 28vAC primary
- 24vDC -> 14vAC primary
- 12vDC -> 7vAC primary
I believe the EG8010 cannot go past 100% "throttle" (i.e. it is not able to distort the sine wave), thus necessitating the considerably lower transformer voltage spec for head room.
The output ac voltage is 60 hz single phase 120 ac or 240vac only and no split phase .
Of course you can do split phase with an EG8010 board.......there's no magic going on here.
Umm...your numbers aren't scaling correct. If 48vDC = 28vAC primary, that means
I know the Ali express number for transformer primary ac do not seem right for 48vdc battery . The EG 8010 inverter board seem to be all single phase on Ali express . The EG 8010 will need to be modify to be usefull . The OZ inverter use a EG 8010 with a lot of modification to run 6 kw . Running 9kw seem impossible but the DIYer never show detail of modification .
I know the Ali express number for transformer primary ac do not seem right for 48vdc battery .
It probably IS right, as like I said above, I do not think the EG8010 is able to flatten out the sine wave (">100% throttle"). As a result, under load, the output voltage will fall if the tranny spec is too high.
The EG 8010 inverter board seem to be all single phase on Ali express .
Does not make a hill of beans' worth of difference. If you have a split-phase transformer, it'll work just the same.
As a result, under load, the output voltage will fall if the tranny spec is too high.
The output voltage of the ASL9.0 with the EG 8010 board the max is 189 vac so I set it at 130vac to run a light bulb . The neutral can be use to make split phase but no purpose to make 65 vac .
As a result, under load, the output voltage will fall if the tranny spec is too high.
If the ASL9 is 36v -> 230v (typical PJ spec), the ratio is (230 / 36) = 6.388. Couple that with a 48v battery input = max non-saturated output of (48 / 1.414) = 33.9vAC into your transformer. Thusly 33.9vAC * 6.388 (ratio) = 216.58v max expected output with zero losses.
...assuming all my guesses are correct, then the EG8010 can't even reach 100% sine "throttle." But I'm making a lot of assumptions here.
You can of course remove a few turns of the primary winding on your ASL9. Depending on the winding spec, each "turn" removed will drop from 1.0-1.5v of the primary voltage.
assuming all my guesses are correct, then the EG8010 can't even reach 100% sine "throttle.
You are not guessing as that is what the EG 8010 is doing so it is a expensive light bulb circuit . IT is very difficult to find a useful DIY for the EG 8010 on youtube . The oz inverter has bigger cap and better mosfets and transformer spec is not Powerjack spec and protection circuit is still a problem .
Split phase is single phase. Just two different pairs of potentials, sharing the center.
So long as your tranny can multiply the voltage to 240, and has a center tap (or 2 equal secondaries), you can use it for North American split phase.
If the EG8010 has a software limit of 189, just make it regulate against a single 120v leg. Like a lot of powerjacks. Second leg go directly to output terminal.
Not sure the implications of regulating off only one leg. Probably wont be as sensitive to voltage drop on the second leg... I'm sure Sid knows the ugly details on this.