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(@notmario)
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Posted by: @sid-genetry-solar
They'll have to ship by ocean, simply because their weight!

What? You mean a plane full of iron won't fly? 😄


   
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(@sid-genetry-solar)
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Posted by: @notmario
What? You mean a plane full of iron won't fly? 😄

Oh it will....but a $600+ shipping cost per transformer is what's hard to fly past the books 😉.


   
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(@steve)
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need to update the expected ship dates on the website as Jan of 22 and 23 have passed


   
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pilgrimvalley
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On 1/30/2023 at 4:08 PM, dickson said:

Then why did you make this comment? Was only trying to help. I'm done. Good luck.

I hope you are not done .      People  say I do not know what  I am talking about  here  all the time .      I  believe you  as I also  do machine work  a long time ago . 

simple tools are often used to make large projects. I have built things in the mountain wilderness with oxen and ox car with wood wheels then also wheel barrow, this year we used a back hoe hired 40 loads of back fill but still utilize a concrete mixer batch by batch on site. the gravel and rocks are harvested the hard way but a last year i purchased 140hp Ford front wheel assist tractor that pulls the wagon of rocks and gravel and sand in the mountain (and corn harvest etc).>>>>presently building a concrete and rebar retaining wall next to the molino (shop building for waterwheel) there.(Bolivia) I think we have had grid electric there now for 3 years but the first 20years was all off grid...

but in the USA it is easy to get a drill press and miter saws are cheap to buy. A hack saw and miterbox will cut aluminum heat sink! I have a 40hp skidloader and 50 foot scissor lift, but started with a ladder and scaffolding.... I have done construction of all types as a second job for over 40 years and the big expensive tools often sit and do nothing and the simple inexpensive tools do the work...I have 3 different drill presses, the most expensive was about 250 dollars, but a jig to guide where the holes are drilled can be made and a hand drill and a vise to hold the part or a couple clamps will drill precision holes....just your time to do it involved....vs paying the communistic china exporter to pay a small pidly wage to their workers....

I often utilize a cordless drill and impact now but still use corded drills for heavy repetitive work...

I worked at a large manufacturing plant with the big presses and sheers etc also....most of the bending can be accomplished with a small bender....

it is easy to have someone else do all the work for you...you can be an oem or an odm...and china can do it all for you or you can use your 2 thumbs and 8 fingers and manually make/manufacture it more yourself.... i am a diy person....

presently installing higher voltage equipment off grid....

there is the right way, the wrong way and uncle Joes way.....Uncle Joe was the boss

we can agree, disagree or agree to disagree.....

have a great Monday 😎


   
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(@dickson)
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I worked at a large manufacturing plant with the big presses and sheers etc also....most of the bending can be accomplished with a small bender..

I also  work with big press in  Marshalltown Trowel  amd Lennox Heat  and very dangerous work .     Some worker had their  finger cut off .    Not everyone can do  manufacturing work  as it is a lot easy to do programming a robot  and using CNC machine .      Jack manufacturing  is more like what a DYI  would do  and is easy to  take apart and modify .    I may try to do  oil cool with my Powerjack  later .    GS 12kw high precision  is not  something that Jack  worker like to do .    IT is a lot different working on a BMW and working a Ford .    


   
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pilgrimvalley
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43 minutes ago, dickson said:

Some worker had their  finger cut off .    Not everyone can do  manufacturing work  as it is a lot easy to do programming a robot  and using CNC machine .      Jack manufacturing  is more like what a DYI  would do  and is easy to  take apart and modify .    I may try to do  oil cool with my Powerjack  later .    GS 12kw high precision  is not  something that Jack  worker like to do .    IT is a lot different working on a BMW and working a Ford .    

definitely, some big machines are dangerous as can be a simple drill or table saw for the careless worker. I think the latest video of the case being made by the local machine shop is a good move until they can sell enough and prove their product.

I have seen lots of injuries and I try to be very careful around the power tools, last month I had a new helper drop part of a tree on a new 6 foot step ladder and ruin it,,,,

Tools are likely their best investment in the future of they want to be a more independent assembler....i find investing in better tools and diy pays better than hiring some unskilled people at times...some workers just can not learn....but to be faster one has to hire more people>>> growing pains >>>my son is a general contractor building very expensive residential and commercial structures>>>with many different subcontractors...in Colorado...

perhaps they could employ family members to do more....

oil cooling a PowerJack transformer core sounds interesting as dissipating the waste heat is one of the biggest problem with electronics shortened lifespan ....hope you can show this in the future... air cooling was the original method to cool the transformer in the PowerJack..

PowerJack reputation has been less than stellar unfortunately but sell at a very low price ( their key to success ).

big transformers use oil cooling with copper windings...

it was 33 degrees yesterday and I was scooping snow,,,It felt like a heat wave compared to 10-20 degrees below zero Fahrenheit just e few days before...😎


   
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perhaps they could employ family members to do more..                    .i find investing in better tools and diy pays better than hiring some unskilled people at times...some workers just can not learn....but to be faster one has to hire more people

Family member  are unskilled  or can not learn  and  sometime  do more  damage  like your helper cutting tree .     Sean  will  not have any profit  if pay minimun  wage  but  long delay with  no sales  will mean no profit also .      Time is money  as  interest payment   and light and heat  and load testing cost money .     Why no GS 6kw   from Jack or is it  because the GS 6kw use the new rev C  board  that Jack can not make   and now NO GS 6kw  and NO gs 12kw  until the new rev C  board is available ?     


   
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(@steve)
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They have the rev c boards now I'm running one


   
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pilgrimvalley
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13 minutes ago, dickson said:

Time is money  as  interest payment   and light and heat  and load testing cost money . 

definitely, time being wasted costs lots of money >>> lost opportunity cost....and interest rates are once again getting higher to go along with the hyper inflation... I agree.

it seems they have no transformers along with a lot of other missing pieces and parts,,,, but maybe in a few more months if they get all their ducks in row with their new Chinese suppliers & manufacturing partners as they wait for the new manufacturing companies and the slow boat ride across the ocean...

the PCB rev c board is made in China also....maybe....??? what version and what manufacturing company???


   
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They have the rev c boards now I'm running one

I think Sean say the new GS6kw  is different than your GS6kw and use the  new GS12kw  rev C2 control board .   The rev c2  board is not availabe in mass  production .       The hand solder C2 is  for the GS 12kw for testing  but not see the load test of the new transformer yet .      Sean has to have the  shipping box design done first .    


   
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It seems they have no transformers along with a lot of other missing pieces and parts,,,, 

Transformer they do have and look very good  in the video .      Still waiting  for  slight  modification to the new rev C2 control board .        I like to see the load test of the new transformer   but have to wait  for the design of the shipping container  box .   


   
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 maybe in a few more months if they get all their ducks in row with their new Chinese suppliers & manufacturing partners as they wait for the new manufacturing companies and the slow boat ride across the ocean...

New China supplier  yes but  NOT new manufacturing  comapany  as they dump Jack .     They will  solder and  assembly the GS inverter  in the USA .    


   
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pilgrimvalley
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Posted by: @dickson
manufacturing

most major parts still to be made in China by various different manufacturing companies as Jack did the worse than a paper in a box scam (sent them some pictures over the internet scam), and Sean says they will assemble at his basement in the YouTube video but still a few moths out before the transformer from a different manufacturing company and assembly time etc.... if they get all the parts so likely more than 2 more months at the minimum....with all the fiddling and design changes and supplier changes etc.... and their new hired helper change and needed training etc...

hope they get a air purifier to get rid of the cat hair! or maybe a simple door to the assembly room would help a lot.....

Then they can use the assembled in the USA claim....🤔 once they start assembling and shipping....

they can make some fancy stickers for the cases(minimal expense)...my friend does vinyl design labels and there are lots of home brew mom and pop shops who can make up some labels for the new cases from the local machine shop...

the slow boat ride is still going to hold things up.


   
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(@steve)
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As I understand it the unit I'm running now has all the updates of the latest design except for the bus bar battery current sensing


   
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pilgrimvalley
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4 hours ago, dickson said:

Transformer they do have and look very good  in the video .

curious if the lugs are aluminum or tinned copper for the ends on the new Chinese transformer manufactured transformer for the gs-12??? the enameled aluminum wire solder??? how is that compatible vs the galvanic reaction if it is an aluminum lug then no different material galvanic reaction would occur, and a crimp to make a cold weld connection may be ok,,, hard to say what reaction will occur on enameled aluminum wire.... but this is a country bumpkin designers' dilemma as he referred to him self previously....

I am not an electrical engineer but a chemistry major in the honors program many years ago...and a few other majors at the University....

if Sean teaches his children a skill even at minimum wage (electrical parts assembly etc), they will always have a vocation in life (if they are old enough to want to learn. I have worked since I was a small boy.... to earn my bikes , motorcycles, cars trucks etc... a good work ethic is taught, learned and respected forever..IMO


   
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