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(@sid-genetry-solar)
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Posted by: @dickson
The importer has to wait for CBP to open all the container to get the HST code for import duty .

Doesn't work that way.


   
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(@steve)
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Sean get response email

Shipment is on the way to his place 


   
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(@sid-genetry-solar)
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Delivery expected tomorrow at noon.

 

Goodness sakes did the import company rake us over the coals.

And we are SO fortunate to have a mediator in the form of the company I originally contacted way back in the beginning--we have only gotten this far BECAUSE of said mediator. 

 

This has been far more exhausting and confusing than I ever wanted.  BUT we're finally on the home stretch to assembling these inverters and getting them at LONG last mailed out to our oh-so-patient customers.


   
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(@aquaticslive)
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Posted by: @sid-genetry-solar
This has been far more exhausting and confusing than I ever wanted. BUT we're finally on the home stretch to assembling these inverters and getting them at LONG last mailed out to our oh-so-patient customers.

Great job man staying with it and not letting it burn you too much.  It always gets resolved eventually when your honest and stick with it.


   
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(@the-blind-wolf)
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Sweet, Now I can get my 12k in a parts box to play with.  Weeeee. 😛  Go to be a 48v though, can't have 24v, it would litterly have a melt down. . . since well, no double battery bolts to handle all thos 600a of good old 24v power. lol.  For those who going to use 24v, get two 6k setup like mine, works gret. just don't get any maytag washers. . .


   
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(@notmario)
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600A is cake. Use substantial aluminum flatbar (3" x 1/2") from a metal shop + double up on 4/0 cable. Victron makes shunts up to 2000A.
You can get a 1200A+ fuse pretty easily to protect from shorts.

At the end of the day, you need 500A to produce 12Kw @ 24v, don't matter how you get it there. Definitely don't want to maintain separate banks... What a disaster that would be.

That does bring up a good point, though. What advantage is there to the 12K over a 6K split-sync configuration? (I mean... obviously a 12K split-sync, but lets be serious here...)
 


   
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(@steve)
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I suspect lower idle current 


   
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(@the-blind-wolf)
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Well, my 6k split uses 8w  I think it was per GS idling with no load.  Not sure now since I am waiting on Sid to update my HTML file so I can see my voltages and such, since the firmware update.  I think it went way up.  Not sure.  


   
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(@the-blind-wolf)
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But, you got to remeber my two 6k gs are running  I think B boards. so not sure on the new boards what the idle would be on those.


   
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(@steve)
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The idle is mostly whatever it takes to keep the transformer humming 


   
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pilgrimvalley
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10 hours ago, NotMario said:

At the end of the day, you need 500A to produce 12Kw @ 24v, don't matter how you get it there. Definitely don't want to maintain separate banks... What a disaster that would be.

separate 6k capable inverters would be a backup in case one fails.... running 2 separate 24 volt battery banks is fairly easy. i have 3 connected in LiFePO4 2 of them are 8P2S  and one is a 4P8S.... these are all DIY 24 volt LiFePO4 and have been cycling charged by solar panels off-grid for 2-3 years...

I do not currently run any lead acid batteries...

the problem was they never figured out why one inverter would run the Maytag washer but the gs inverter could not  ...sounds like that problem was unfortunately never diagnosed....sounds to me like it would be more economical to use a different inverter that runs the Maytag without issues...

I use 4/0 copper wires to the copper busbars and 400Amp class T fuses....

perhaps another expert can help to find the real problem...

better quality LED lights work better than some other cheaper ones and of course the older incandescent lights work better than LED which indicates poor quality LED electronics... IMO

it would be better to not overtax the components >>> more amps means more waste heat, so 2 inverters will waste a bit more than 1 one but solar panels are fairly inexpensive to build up the off-grid system and use as much as you can when the sun shines... and conserve when cloudy times are upon us...😎😎😎

Have a great relaxing Memorial Day weekend...😃


   
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pilgrimvalley
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the low standby sounds great, i never have the inverters running in standby as there is some type of load on them 24/7....but if they are not being used they could be switched off...

a 90 percent efficient toroid will be pulling a lot more watts when in use regardless so either more battery capacity or more solar panels....

12000 watt vs 6000 watt draw still loses 10 percent from the battery when in use with a  90 percent efficient inverter....

so still requires more dc input either from more batteries or more solar panels....


   
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(@dickson)
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... running 2 separate 24 volt battery banks is fairly easy. i have 3 connected in LiFePO4 2 of them are 8P2S  and one is a 4P8S.... these are all DIY 24 volt LiFePO4 and have been cycling charged by solar panels off-grid for 2-3 years...

I now have  14 separate  60 volts battery banks  running  the 30000 watts  Powerjack .   Do not ask me how to do as it is too dangerous with lithium-ion battery .   I have one bank of  AGM battery  with a  260 dollars OPTIMA charger  running 24.7 that keep the AGM like new for 4 years still .    the 4 AGM battery cost 900 dollars on ebay .  


   
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(@the-blind-wolf)
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Posted by: @pilgrimvalley
separate 6k capable inverters would be a backup in case one fails.... running 2 separate 24 volt battery banks is fairly easy. i have 3 connected in LiFePO4 2 of them are 8P2S and one is a 4P8S.... these are all DIY 24 volt LiFePO4 and have been cycling charged by solar panels off-grid for 2-3 years...

Actually one gs would run it one way the other would run it another way, both of them wasn't running it correctly either way. Its being worked on right now, when Sid gets back and not under a time crunch.  We sort of figured out what it is I'm guessing, cause I sent him a lot of data samples of whats going on.

 

I run one battery bank. mainly with already made batts like power queen.  I got a bunch of diy batts, and will put them into the system later, once I figure out why the stupid solder will not go onto a battery cap when I solder. I can't seem to get the wires on the battery 95% of the time I try. 

 

I use Lead resen solder I think 60/40.  useing a trigger soldering gun.  Maybe I need a better soldering gun. wish they made a real nice one that hold ther solder and you just pull a trigger to feed to the tip I got one, a cheap one, not found a high quality one.


   
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(@dickson)
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I run one battery bank. mainly with already made batts like power queen.  I got a bunch of diy batts, and will put them into the system later, once I figure out why the stupid solder will not go onto a battery cap when I solder. I can't seem to get the wires on the battery 95% of the time I try.

I  now never solder to battery .   Lead 60/40 solder melted with the heat during summer and the wires arcing  started  a fire  3  different times .     The 400 amp fuse save the battery .   


   
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